seemed to be in a prevent defenses. he's been running a pretty safe campaign because he's been ahead for a while and feeling confident about where they are. he was like, looked like he was trying to stall out the clock. seemed to me like he was endure the debate more than engaging the debate. the visuals, talking to a lot of people in mike's profession. in any debate turn the sound off and just look at the visuals what you're seeing. president obama staring down, not making eye contact with governor romney nor the audience. that visual cue it's almost accepting the other guy's making a point you need to deal with as opposed to forcefully kind of staring them down in a pose of reputation. you never saw that with president obama tonight. i thought it was a curiously passive performance, and there's a lot of things that mitt romney said tonight that he's never said before. he said i'm not, there's going to be no fax cuts for upper income earners. no cuts to medicare. those are positions we've not heard from governor romney